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From: spindoc@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (Ross Burrell)
Subject: Re: A show of hands (ME!!, FUCKING ME!!)
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In article <3tufid$aa4@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>,
Omar Haneef '96 wrote:
>
> Clearly the senses of cyberpunk being articualted here are quite different.
> (1) Sourceror: Do it yourself
> (2) Nightfly and Nemickol - the closest in spirit - a general recklesness
> (3) Sweet Polly: Goth sensibility and drugs
> (4) Amy: Internet mysticism and poetry
>
> These are just tokens to demonstrate how different the responses are. I am
> still unsure what makes any of these "cyberpunk?" And clearly these are very
> different notions of different things. A lot of these are simply interesting
> glimpses of lifestyles but I don't understand how that lifestyle is
> cyberpunk. Even Nemickol and Nightfly disagree when it comes to breaking the
> law (it seems).

We seem to all agree about you Omar...

> Sourceror seems to think that there is some notion of a counterculture
> involved but I don't really see that in the responses. Polly insists that
> the reason I am getting flamed ("if I want to call it that") is because I
> fail to recognize the importance of cyberpunk to its "practitioners" - and I
> think Sourceror said something similar. But I don't see what a cyberpunk is,
> or how you guys think you are doing the same thing, or how this is important
> to you or even what "this" is!

Yeah, yeah...what is the meaning of life and all that...as the wise
man say....a closed mouth gathers no feet...

> I can sort of hash out the literary genre and see what sort of things are
> cyberpunk. Hence Johnny Mnemonic and ShadowRun are instantly recognizable as
> cyberpunk (and so an especially interesting Centurions episode "Zone
> Dancer") but this subculture is beyond recognition.
>
> But, more closely, where is the cyber? Other than Amy, nobody mentioned the
> relevance of technology. And if there is no cyber, why not just be punks..

Tried just being a punk but my computer kept getting in the way...

Are you from another planet Omar?....Serious....


"Stranger from another planet, welcome to our hole"
The Stranglers



--
Ross Burrell
spindoc@actrix.gen.nz

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