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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Omar Haneef '96) writes:
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|> Clearly the senses of cyberpunk being articualted here are quite different.
|> (1) Sourceror: Do it yourself
|> (2) Nightfly and Nemickol - the closest in spirit - a general recklesness
|> (3) Sweet Polly: Goth sensibility and drugs
|> (4) Amy: Internet mysticism and poetry
|>
|> These are just tokens to demonstrate how different the responses are. I am
|> still unsure what makes any of these "cyberpunk?" And clearly these are very
|> different notions of different things. A lot of these are simply interesting
|> glimpses of lifestyles but I don't understand how that lifestyle is
|> cyberpunk. Even Nemickol and Nightfly disagree when it comes to breaking the
|> law (it seems).
I break laws. (In case there was some confusion)
I won't tell you *which* ones, but you get the point.
|> Sourceror seems to think that there is some notion of a counterculture
|> involved but I don't really see that in the responses. Polly insists that
|> the reason I am getting flamed ("if I want to call it that") is because I
|> fail to recognize the importance of cyberpunk to its "practitioners" - and I
|> think Sourceror said something similar. But I don't see what a cyberpunk is,
|> or how you guys think you are doing the same thing, or how this is important
|> to you or even what "this" is!
|> I can sort of hash out the literary genre and see what sort of things are
|> cyberpunk. Hence Johnny Mnemonic and ShadowRun are instantly recognizable as
|> cyberpunk (and so an especially interesting Centurions episode "Zone
|> Dancer") but this subculture is beyond recognition.
|>
|> But, more closely, where is the cyber?
Well, I thought it was obvious, but maybe you should take a
look at alt.cp.tech.
|> Other than Amy, nobody mentioned the
|> relevance of technology.
I just assumed that it was obvious. Computers,
beige boxes, pirate TV/radio...
|>And if there is no cyber, why not just be punks?
|>
Because punks (REAL ones) have a tendency to
rot in their own juices. I know enough of
em to know. I knew I wanted to keep some of
the mentality, but I had to trim half the fat. (tm)
Nemickol
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