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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:02:41 -0400
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On 11 Sep 1995, Omar Haneef '96 wrote:

> > On 11 Sep 1995, Omar Haneef '96 wrote:
> problematic since it was exactly the proletariat (lumpen?) who empowered
> Hitler in Nazi Germany.

I missed the question mark the first time around. Proletariat does not
equal lumpenproletariat. If you are using them interchangeably then not
only don't you understand what I am writing but you will have to root
out all your political studies and start over again.

Might as well start with the dictionary definition (I swore I'd
never do this for you)

lumpen adj (G fr MHG lumpe = rag) lumpenproletariat, degraded and
contemptable section of the proletariat. An amorphous group
of dispossessed and uprooted individuals set off by their inferior status
from the economic and social class with which they are identified.

examples:

"exclusion of the rootless lumpenproletariat from a leading
role in the revolutions." -- Amer Polit. Sci. Rev.

"The new unemployed intelligensia...will not become lumpenintellectuals."
-- Daniel Bell

My usage of it to describe the condition you cite Foucault on, that human
beings are becoming redundant to production generally and that this
constitutes a new class, is not based on anyone's writing, although I
don't doubt it is so used by others.


(__) Sourcerer
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